Frame saws
an older saw form
[soundtrack : Jan Garbarek & Keith Jarrett — ‘My Song’]
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I still have no time to do any fresh writing, so I’ll slyly fob you off with another reheated, old post from the archive. Please look away while I whistle innocently and sidle off …
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A couple of years ago I helped my log-building colleagues with a job. They needed me to give a decorative shape to some of their timbers. I only have an old photo of the cross-section, but you get the idea. The end of this cross-section also needed to be given ‘a profile’ of similar shape.
Cutting the profile / shape on the end of these timbers was a job for a frame saw with its fairly narrow sawblade, the timbers being too big to manhandle onto the band saw. I had to borrow a frame saw from my old friend Hróðvaldr Verksmester (Master of Works :-) He had one from Dictum. It did the job, just about, but was not a tool to my liking. It was too heavy, specifically; top-heavy, and the (hardwood) handles / cheeks were ergonomically unhelpful, becoming slippery when sweaty and to make matters worse, were too round in cross-section. Or, to quote the sales pitch: “made of precious wood with finely sanded, oiled and polished surfaces”.
Now … I have been harbouring a small collection of frame saw blades for the last 25 years with the idea of one day making frames for them. They have been hanging patiently on a finishing nail in my various workshops all these years. Some people slander me by suggesting I procrastinate, but they misunderstand: My patience is of a timescale they cannot comprehend — I make all my mistakes under the watchful eye of eternity. And now the time had clearly come to make some more.
My goal was to make a lighter and less top-heavy saw by substituting the hardwood frame for one made of ‘dry’ (not resinous) but tight pine for the handles, and fast-grown but flawless spruce for the stretcher. Tensioning would be accomplished by twisting a bunch of nylon cord with a toggle (Spanish windlass) in stead of the heavy steel rod.
I would also alter the basic frame construction: Where contemporary saws connect the handles to the stretcher by a small tenon (or small ‘locating nub’) I would copy the old Norwegian saws we used at school, where the slightly tapering handle passed through a mortise in the stretcher itself, as you will understand from this old handle I’ve kept for reference:
I bought turned knobs and hardware from Dieter Schmid, neither of which compared favourably to my original parts shown here:
I ended up with 4 saws of differing lengths:

I managed to reduce the weight from 874 grams (30,83 oz.)
to 697 grams (24,59 oz.) — a reduction of 177 g. (6,24 oz.)
The saws work well enough, but are undoubtedly more unwieldy than my ‘normal’ saws. I prefer using them vertically, letting gravity help to keep them perpendicular, with the workpiece held flat on the bench. The frame saws have their uses as a ‘speciality tool’ and I plan to make some more. I am currently making some Grammercy turning saws in-between jobs …
… and I still have a couple of narrower, old saw blades on a nail that could become useful, slightly larger turning saws … perhaps some time in the next 25 years or so?
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A nice short and to the point contribution. I’ve had the pleasure (and calluses) of making and using the Roubo Frame saw using the hardware from Bad Axe Toolworks for a couple years now. And I must say, it’s a solid piece of kit. I carved the handles to stay somewhat boxy which I sometimes regret but my hands have gotten used to registering on the flats. I may still carve it up further and round it some more but it works well and that is what counts. I’ve made about couple of the Gramercy bow saws as well (Tools for Working Wood is about 15 minutes from where I live) and love it. Haven’t snapped a frame yet, so that stands for something, right?In the future I may use some straighter grain or even greenwood for it, rived and shaved for optimal strength. I’ve cut some decent stuff with the coarse saw (I made one coarse and one fine bow saw) and was surprised to see how well you can steer it. Anyway, thanks for the article, I always enjoy reading.